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soft vs hard

Posted By: Bob Koca
Date: Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 5:27 p.m.

In Response To: resetting the delay (Colin Owen)

If the dice were shaken in the cup with accordance with the rules and they come from a lipped cup is there actually a loss or randomness from a soft toss compared to a hard toss?

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• USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
  Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:14 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Seth -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:44 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Bill Riles -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:50 a.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      David Rennie -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:22 a.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
        Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 9:34 a.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      TraumaBG -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 3:27 a.m.
  • I propose a wager
    vidvis -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:42 a.m.
    • I propose a wager
      Stick -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:19 a.m.
      • I propose a wager
        vidvis -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:26 p.m.
  • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
    Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 3:54 a.m.
    • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
      TarHeelFan -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:15 p.m.
      • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
        Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:32 p.m.
        • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
          Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:43 p.m.
          • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
            Colin Owen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 4:35 p.m.
            • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
              MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 5:04 p.m.
              • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
                Colin Owen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:42 p.m.
        • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
          MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:00 p.m.
          • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
            Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:19 p.m.
          • Would the advocates for the new rule state how they would rule Ken's two examples?
            Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:25 p.m.
            • In other words?
              vidvis -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:52 p.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Stick -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:24 a.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      David Rennie -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:07 a.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:15 p.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      Chuck Bower -- Monday, 13 February 2017, at 2:32 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:27 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Art Grater -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 8:51 a.m.
  • oy vey not this again.
    MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:13 p.m.
    • What's the ruling? Are the dice cocked or not?
      Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:30 p.m.
      • What's the ruling? Are the dice cocked or not?
        MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:34 p.m.
        • What's the ruling? Are the dice cocked or not?
          Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:48 p.m.
          • What's the ruling? Are the dice cocked or not?
            MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:34 p.m.
            • What's the ruling? Are the dice cocked or not?
              tem_sat -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 5:39 p.m.
      • What's the ruling? Are the dice cocked or not?
        neilkaz -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 1:19 a.m.
    • oy vey not this again.
      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:32 p.m.
      • koca
        MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:51 p.m.
        • koca
          Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:00 p.m.
          • koca
            MishyPoo -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:08 p.m.
            • koca
              scotty -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 11:09 p.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Charlotte Backgammon Club
    TarHeelFan -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 12:24 p.m.
    • What's your ruling, Jeb?
      Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:06 p.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Bill Finneran -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:05 p.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:09 p.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
        vidvis -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:21 p.m.
        • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
          Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 1:25 p.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:28 p.m.
        • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
          Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:05 p.m.
          • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
            Michael Mesich -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:56 p.m.
            • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
              Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 8:41 p.m.
              • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                Michael Mesich -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 9:07 p.m.
              • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                Stick -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 10:51 p.m.
                • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                  Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 11:13 p.m.
                  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                    vidvis -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 2:37 a.m.
                    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                      Barry Silliman -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 2:59 a.m.
                      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                        vidvis -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 3:05 a.m.
                        • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                          Barry Silliman -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 4:02 a.m.
                          • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                            Stick -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 4:24 a.m.
                          • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                            Timothy Chow -- Monday, 13 February 2017, at 6:29 p.m.
                            • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                              Stick -- Monday, 13 February 2017, at 9:33 p.m.
                              • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                                Bob Koca -- Monday, 13 February 2017, at 11:10 p.m.
                                • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                                  Stick -- Tuesday, 14 February 2017, at 1:15 a.m.
                                  • Rolling on top of checkers
                                    Bob koca -- Tuesday, 14 February 2017, at 2:10 a.m.
                                    • Rolling on top of checkers
                                      scotty -- Wednesday, 15 February 2017, at 2:04 a.m.
                              • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                                Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 14 February 2017, at 12:55 a.m.
                                • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                                  Stick -- Tuesday, 14 February 2017, at 1:15 a.m.
                    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
                      Barry Silliman -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 3:47 a.m.
  • Read this post or the dog gets it
    Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:34 p.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Albert Steg -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 2:58 p.m.
    • How long to reroll?
      Bob Koca -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:24 p.m.
      • How long to reroll?
        Albert Steg -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 3:19 p.m.
        • How long to reroll?
          Bob Koca -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 11:26 p.m.
  • This rookie tournament director's opinion
    Michael Mesich -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 6:42 p.m.
    • This rookie tournament director's opinion
      Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:09 p.m.
      • This rookie tournament director's opinion
        Michael Mesich -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:24 p.m.
        • This rookie tournament director's opinion
          Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 7:52 p.m.
          • This rookie tournament director's opinion
            Michael Mesich -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 8:13 p.m.
          • This rookie tournament director's opinion
            TarHeelFan -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 11:55 p.m.
            • This rookie tournament director's opinion
              Barry Silliman -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 12:12 a.m.
              • This rookie tournament director's opinion
                TarHeelFan -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 12:43 a.m.
                • This rookie tournament director's opinion
                  Stick -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 12:54 a.m.
    • This rookie tournament director's opinion (long reply)
      neilkaz -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 7:56 p.m.
      • A Proposal
        Barry Silliman -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 10:11 p.m.
        • A Proposal
          johnk -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 2:52 p.m.
          • A Proposal
            Barry Silliman -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 3:01 p.m.
          • A Proposal
            Michael Mesich -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 10:58 p.m.
            • A Proposal
              johnk -- Monday, 13 February 2017, at 2:26 a.m.
        • A Proposal
          Mick Z -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 5:39 p.m.
          • A Proposal
            Stick -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 6:33 p.m.
          • A Proposal
            johnk -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 8:29 p.m.
        • A Proposal
          Michael Mesich -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 10:55 p.m.
      • This rookie tournament director's opinion (long reply)
        Colin Owen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 11:12 p.m.
        • This rookie tournament director's opinion (long reply)
          neilkaz -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 9:18 p.m.
          • This rookie tournament director's opinion (long reply)
            Colin Owen -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 2:41 a.m.
        • resetting the delay
          Bob Koca -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 11:02 p.m.
          • resetting the delay
            Colin Owen -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 2:44 a.m.
            • soft vs hard
              Bob Koca -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 5:27 p.m.
              • soft vs hard
                Stick -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 6:20 p.m.
              • soft vs hard
                Colin Owen -- Sunday, 12 February 2017, at 6:26 p.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
    TarHeelFan -- Thursday, 9 February 2017, at 11:40 p.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
      Colin Owen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 12:09 a.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
        TarHeelFan -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 12:47 a.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
      Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 1:15 a.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
        vidvis -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 1:47 a.m.
        • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
          Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 2:21 a.m.
          • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
            vidvis -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 2:29 a.m.
            • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
              Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 3:09 a.m.
              • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
                Casper Van der Tak -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 7:38 a.m.
                • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - 1% tilt = cocked
                  Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 9:50 a.m.
                  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - 1% tilt = cocked
                    Casper Van der Tak -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 10:57 a.m.
                    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - 1% tilt = cocked
                      Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 11:24 a.m.
                      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - 1% tilt = cocked
                        Casper Van der Tak -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 11:43 a.m.
                  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - 1% tilt = cocked
                    TarHeelFan -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 11:36 a.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
        TarHeelFan -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 1:57 a.m.
        • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
          Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 2:27 a.m.
          • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
            TarHeelFan -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 11:26 a.m.
            • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
              Ken Larsen -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 1:55 p.m.
              • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Ken's examples
                TarHeelFan -- Friday, 10 February 2017, at 2:49 p.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Timothy Chow -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 1:08 a.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      Ken Larsen -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 7:00 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    johnk -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 4:20 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - Feb 11th opinion of Ken Larsen
    Ken Larsen -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 7:52 a.m.
  • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
    Barry Silliman -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 2:33 p.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      johnk -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 4:01 p.m.
      • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
        Barry Silliman -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 4:37 p.m.
        • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
          johnk -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 4:46 p.m.
          • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
            Colin Owen -- Saturday, 11 February 2017, at 5:17 p.m.
    • USBGF rule for dice-on-checkers - opinion of Ken Larsen
      Art Grater -- Tuesday, 14 February 2017, at 6:01 a.m.