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Eliminating Cherry Picking in Live XG PR Rating Lists
Posted By: Terje Pedersen In Response To: Eliminating Cherry Picking in Live XG PR Rating Lists (Paul Weaver)
Date: Tuesday, 23 February 2016, at 8:40 a.m.
I am not convinced that the cherrypicking problem is that big as to make any PR list meaningless unless significant steps to avoid it is in place.
How easy is it to rig a popularity contest as opposed to cherrypick yourself into the top 50 backgammon players in terms of live PR? If you have never played below 5.0PR in any live tournament no amount of cherrypicking will ever make you get close to the top. If you have to cherrypick half of your played matches in order to get into the list what are the odds that this will go unnoticed? And if you do you will have "Cherrypicker!" stamped on your forehead before you know it! :-)
The worse you true average PR is the more cherrypicking you have to do in order to improve it and the more likely you are to be identified as a cherry picker so I think the entire concept of cherrypicking defeats itself.
You can download every single match in the public database in Backgammon Studio (all 3258) if you want.
Another interesting thing is that you can also get a lifetime view of average PR over all available matches (10+ matches length above 3):
# Player Average PR Country # Matches 1 Marty Storer 2.888 United States 17 2 David Wells (wells) 2.89275 United States 12 3 Bob Wachtel (wockadoo) 3.13133 United States 22 4 Masayuki Mochizuki (Mochy) 3.1509 Japan 254 5 Matt Cohn-Geier 3.374 United States 92 6 Petko Kostadinov (bulgari) 3.4436 United States 85 7 Falafel Natanzon (fanar) 3.46412 Israel 69 8 Victor Ashkenazi (vic) 3.5416 United States 94 9 Steen Grønbech 3.56767 Denmark 16 10 Carlo Melzi (melzino) 3.5825 Italy 30 11 Steve Sax (STEAMSAX) 3.60788 United States 54 12 Neil Kazaross (neilkaz) 3.614 United States 48 13 Freddie Nohr 3.64375 Denmark 17 14 Michihito Kageyama (Michy) 3.64929 Japan 119 15 Tore Fredriksen 3.67457 Norway 28 16 Masanori Ichikawa (othello) 3.6845 Japan 55 17 Yoshiyuki Nakamura (yoshi) 3.7472 Japan 31 18 John OHagan 3.78257 United States 15 19 Dmitriy Obukhov (Lyurix) 3.7868 Latvia 66 20 Thomas Kristensen 3.804 Denmark 30 21 Stuart Thomson 3.83067 United States 15 22 Naoya Kihara (bakatuki) 3.836 Japan 16 23 Paul Weaver (peever) 3.85162 United States 43 24 Fernando Braconi 3.86717 Italy 14 25 Thomas Myhr 3.95325 Denmark 18 26 Bill Phipps (BJP) 3.9874 United States 25 27 Daisuke Katagami (bgdaichan) 4.0145 Japan 23 28 Amir Eshraghi (Amirsnooker) 4.03967 Iran, Islamic Republic of 16 29 John Klein (66fromthebar) 4.05225 United States 11 30 Ed O'Laughlin (EasyEd) 4.074 United States 63 31 Kit Woolsey 4.10517 United States 28 32 Malcolm Davis (Cyrano) 4.19167 United States 50 33 Zdenek Zizka (XZet24) 4.196 Czech Republic 17 34 Junichi Tanaka (TJ) 4.20583 Japan 49 35 Mads Peter Andersen (MP) 4.2115 Denmark 15 36 Kiyokazu Nishikawa (fairytails) 4.2684 Japan 53 37 Sondre Rike (sonrik) 4.2945 Norway 11 38 Katsios Dikaros 4.307 Greece 12 39 Stick 4.30744 United States 40 40 Michael Senkiewicz (Senk) 4.37383 United States 16 41 Dagfinn Snarheim 4.456 Norway 23 42 Karsten Bredahl (plzdontcube) 4.4658 Denmark 19 43 Michel Lamote (kynos8000) 4.4926 Belgium 28 44 Marc Olsen 4.58625 Denmark 17 45 Akiko Yazawa (attakun) 4.59786 Japan 68 46 Tobias Hellwag 4.5985 Germany 20 47 Joe Russell (ez2bcubed) 4.6256 United States 14 48 Gerry Tansey (vanilladice) 4.668 United States 11 49 Frank Simon (pattayastyle) 4.7436 Germany 84 50 Jeremy Bagai 4.7495 United States 26 if you happen to be on this list I think chances are good you are a very strong backgammon player!
Best regards,
TP
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