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gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function

Posted By: sebalotek
Date: Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 7:21 p.m.

In Response To: gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function (Dmitriy Obukhov)

Thanks for your responses so far Dmitriy and Bob:

D.O. >> "you don't double just because you are inside your theoretical doubling window."

That is a really interesting comment Dmitriy. I thought that would be *exactly* when you could correctly offer the cube.

I do fully accept that my double was classified as 'Very Bad' and looking back at the screenshot, I can see that the CPU has a quite strong chance to get back in the game. At the time I thought it was a Double / Take.

My query was more pertaining to the gnubg software functionality: should I infer that the gnubg market window function is effectively only of any practical use in last roll situations and not for the many rolls which happen before that point?

And if I understand correctly, there is no way to see (in gnubg) at what precise percentage I should start to sensibly offer the cube? I feel that such a feature that would display that particular statistic per move would be *really* useful. In fact I thought that that important number should be part of what a 'Market Window' function should illustrate? It seems a little counter-intuitive to me.

Also, on the other side of the coin (when the cube is offered to me) it would be really good if the Market Window function could also tell me my precise Take Point per move too. Or are these sorts of thing not possible to calculate / display per move?

From this gnubg FAQ link ( http://www.gnubg.org/win32/gnubg/faq.html#Market%20Window ) Market Window is described like this:

" A market window is the range between the point of "first double" and "last take". In moneygames it's usually between 50% - 75% winning chances depending on the value of the cube. "

Maybe it's just me misunderstanding terminology or semantics but I still dont understand what the intended usefulness of the gnubg Market Window function is. Or what 'first double' means in the explanation above? I interpreted it as meaning when you get within your doubling (market) window, you can then correctly offer your first double.

I must admit that I'm relatively rubbish with the cube - but what practical uses have other players found for 'Market Window' in laymans terms if it does not actually tell you the border of when you can correctly offer the cube?

Many thanks,

sebalotek

Messages In This Thread

• gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
  sebalotek -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 4:37 p.m.
  • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
    Dmitriy Obukhov -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 4:49 p.m.
    • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
      sebalotek -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 7:21 p.m.
      • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
        scotty -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 8:51 p.m.
        • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 9:50 p.m.
          • full efficiency?
            scotty -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 10:09 p.m.
            • full efficiency?
              Bob Koca -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 10:18 p.m.
      • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
        Dmitriy Obukhov -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 10:37 p.m.
        • gnubg - Cubes: at what percentage does 'Doubtful' stop being triggered?
          sebalotek -- Sunday, 17 August 2014, at 10:10 a.m.
          • gnubg - Cubes: at what percentage does 'Doubtful' stop being triggered?
            Bob Koca -- Sunday, 17 August 2014, at 4:10 p.m.
      • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
        David Rockwell -- Friday, 15 August 2014, at 1:17 a.m.
        • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function / XG feature questioned too
          sebalotek -- Monday, 18 April 2016, at 4:23 p.m.
  • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
    Bob Koca -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 5:04 p.m.
    • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
      Keene -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 6:20 p.m.
  • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
    ah_clem -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 6:00 p.m.
    • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
      sebalotek -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 7:26 p.m.
      • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 8:10 p.m.
        • Aha! the holy grail of the cube
          scotty -- Sunday, 17 August 2014, at 9:35 p.m.
      • gnubg - ‘Analyse -> Market Window’ function
        ah_clem -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 11:02 p.m.