That’s a topic that interests me. For sometime, I have been desirous of creating a short 1k trunc that would compare favorably with a 5k full rollout. I could, for instance, simply extend the number of trials in my XGR++ clone, but I am not sure whether that would give the best results. The speed would be impressive. XGR++ and its GnuBg clone are very fast. Extending the length to 1k would mean less than a factor of 4 increase in runtime.
Except for gammon save, these rollouts all have $ = 13/10, 6/5 on top. If you still have the move sequence for this position, please post it. That way, I can add this interesting position to my database. Thanks.
# | Ply | Move | Equity |
• | 1 | R | 13/10 6/5 | -0.275600 |
| 0.452538 | 0.110584 | 0.003550 | - | 0.547462 | 0.213090 | 0.011960 | -0.205840 | -0.275600 | 0.001080 | 0.000565 | 0.000076 | - | 0.001080 | 0.001359 | 0.000221 | 0.002954 | 0.004961 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 2 | R | 18/15 6/5 | -0.295371 ( -0.019771) |
| 0.443051 | 0.108143 | 0.003315 | - | 0.556949 | 0.203427 | 0.009651 | -0.215518 | -0.295371 | 0.000907 | 0.000524 | 0.000066 | - | 0.000907 | 0.001395 | 0.000193 | 0.002625 | 0.004246 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 3 | R | 13/9 | -0.297387 ( -0.021787) |
| 0.432299 | 0.110115 | 0.002906 | - | 0.567701 | 0.179847 | 0.007281 | -0.209509 | -0.297387 | 0.000929 | 0.000550 | 0.000072 | - | 0.000929 | 0.001219 | 0.000145 | 0.002494 | 0.003994 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
# | Ply | Move | Equity |
• | 1 | R | 13/10 6/5 | -0.095231 |
| 0.452384 | 0.113938 | 0.003585 | - | 0.547616 | 0.207429 | 0.011458 | -0.095231 | -0.095231 | 0.001072 | 0.000662 | 0.000083 | - | 0.001072 | 0.002106 | 0.000304 | 0.002144 | 0.002144 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 2 | R | 18/15 6/5 | -0.114523 ( -0.019292) |
| 0.442738 | 0.108839 | 0.003250 | - | 0.557262 | 0.203340 | 0.010038 | -0.114523 | -0.114523 | 0.000891 | 0.000596 | 0.000062 | - | 0.000891 | 0.001512 | 0.000219 | 0.001781 | 0.001781 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 3 | R | 13/9 | -0.134416 ( -0.039185) |
| 0.432792 | 0.111447 | 0.002956 | - | 0.567208 | 0.188662 | 0.008405 | -0.134416 | -0.134416 | 0.000951 | 0.000622 | 0.000068 | - | 0.000951 | 0.001500 | 0.000192 | 0.001901 | 0.001901 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
# | Ply | Move | Equity |
• | 1 | R | 13/10 6/5 | +0.130306 |
| 0.453160 | 0.111993 | 0.003451 | - | 0.546840 | 0.217416 | 0.012758 | +0.130306 | +0.130306 | 0.001102 | 0.000586 | 0.000076 | - | 0.001102 | 0.001549 | 0.000266 | 0.002895 | 0.002895 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 2 | R | 18/15 6/5 | +0.101667 ( -0.028639) |
| 0.444135 | 0.106699 | 0.003112 | - | 0.555865 | 0.209467 | 0.010666 | +0.101667 | +0.101667 | 0.000920 | 0.000538 | 0.000061 | - | 0.000920 | 0.001438 | 0.000191 | 0.002566 | 0.002566 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 3 | R | 13/9 | +0.087380 ( -0.042926) |
| 0.432578 | 0.111113 | 0.002943 | - | 0.567422 | 0.191700 | 0.008764 | +0.087380 | +0.087380 | 0.000981 | 0.000493 | 0.000063 | - | 0.000981 | 0.001835 | 0.000223 | 0.002607 | 0.002607 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
# | Ply | Move | Equity |
• | 1 | R | 13/9 | -0.498162 |
| 0.428346 | 0.109424 | 0.003333 | - | 0.571654 | 0.177427 | 0.006912 | -0.498162 | -0.498162 | 0.001171 | 0.000731 | 0.000071 | - | 0.001171 | 0.000894 | 0.000117 | 0.002139 | 0.002139 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 2 | R | 18/14 | -0.500506 ( -0.002343) |
| 0.419016 | 0.105201 | 0.002981 | - | 0.580984 | 0.169269 | 0.005919 | -0.500505 | -0.500506 | 0.001252 | 0.000743 | 0.000067 | - | 0.001252 | 0.000994 | 0.000111 | 0.002051 | 0.002051 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 3 | R | 23/22 13/10 | -0.503118 ( -0.004956) |
| 0.420599 | 0.103615 | 0.003195 | - | 0.579401 | 0.172158 | 0.005960 | -0.503118 | -0.503118 | 0.001124 | 0.000626 | 0.000060 | - | 0.001124 | 0.000844 | 0.000092 | 0.002054 | 0.002053 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 4 | R | 23/22 18/15 | -0.510575 ( -0.012413) |
| 0.405725 | 0.098963 | 0.002658 | - | 0.594275 | 0.161013 | 0.005057 | -0.510575 | -0.510575 | 0.001230 | 0.000708 | 0.000058 | - | 0.001230 | 0.001051 | 0.000111 | 0.001931 | 0.001931 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 5 | R | 22/18 | -0.517812 ( -0.019650) |
| 0.417227 | 0.102174 | 0.002359 | - | 0.582773 | 0.176133 | 0.004935 | -0.517812 | -0.517812 | 0.001194 | 0.000776 | 0.000059 | - | 0.001194 | 0.001222 | 0.000100 | 0.002301 | 0.002301 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 6 | R | 18/15 6/5 | -0.518928 ( -0.020766) |
| 0.440767 | 0.106129 | 0.003255 | - | 0.559233 | 0.200231 | 0.009055 | -0.518928 | -0.518928 | 0.001051 | 0.000613 | 0.000066 | - | 0.001051 | 0.001239 | 0.000181 | 0.002840 | 0.002840 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| 7 | R | 13/10 6/5 | -0.523495 ( -0.025333) |
| 0.453213 | 0.110978 | 0.003733 | - | 0.546787 | 0.214961 | 0.011571 | -0.523495 | -0.523495 | 0.001591 | 0.000789 | 0.000080 | - | 0.001591 | 0.001336 | 0.000207 | 0.002720 | 0.002720 | | |
| Truncated cubeful rollout (depth 5) with var.redn. | |
| 360 games, Mersenne Twister dice gen. with seed 705145359 and quasi-random dice | |
| Play: world class 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Skip pruning for 1-ply moves. | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |
| Different evaluations after 2 plies: | |
| Play: 1-ply cubeful prune | |
| keep the first 0 0-ply moves and up to 8 more moves within equity 0.16 | |
| Cube: 2-ply cubeful prune [world class] | |